Point missed the older workmate said "well we are too". He did however make a very fine point that "heaven is here, this is paradise, many don't know it but it is what you make of it that counts". Wise words there.
On the note of them and us, the 'we are too' statement, well this is the basis of an all too easy trap to fall into. If you are in another religious group or even if you are non-religious then you are in a group. I can not be critical or apart from any religion without 1) upholding it as a genuine thing 2) being in a group myself. So I'd be more inclined to say I am one with you all, just being.
We are all being and can't deny it, this is where we share perfection. The group, religious, otherwise or even non-religious are mind-made groups, full of division and the inevitable fall-out.
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